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MessaggioInviato: Mar Ott 24, 2006 1:27 pm    Oggetto: Sottovasi Rispondi citando

Durante una discussione intorno ad una pianta di un utente si è parlato dei sottovasi. E' un argomento degno di essere discusso a parte, perchè interessante per qualunque pianta.

La mia opinione è che il sottovaso non serva in linea di massima, anzi racogliendo l'acqua al suo interno rischia di formare ristagni idrici.

Vi sono dei casi in cui esso invece è utile, se non addirittura obbligatorio. Per esempio io lo uso per le piante che porto all'interno, in casa o nel giro scala per evitare di sporcare accidentalmente i pavimenti di terra o che alcune innaffiature abbondanti fuoriescano dai fori di drenaggio. In queste condizioni è assolutamente necessario distanziare il fondo del sottovaso dai fori di drenaggio, per evitare appunto ristagni idrici. A questo socopo io utilizzo dell'argilla espansa, materiale economico e di facile reperibilità.

In certi casi sottovaso e argilla espansa giocano a favore della pianta, oltre che di chi pulisce: alcune piante esotiche amano atmosfere umide (per esempio i ficus) e sopportano meglio gli inverni in casa se nel sottovaso c'è dell'acqua. L'umidità che evapora costantemente dal sottovaso crea un miscoclima umido intorno alla pianta e contrasta l'aria secca che il riscaldamento inevitabilmente crea all'interno degli ambienti.


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MessaggioInviato: Mer Ott 25, 2006 1:01 am    Oggetto: Re: Sottovasi Rispondi citando

MarcoA ha scritto:
Durante una discussione intorno ad una pianta di un utente si è parlato dei sottovasi. E' un argomento degno di essere discusso a parte, perchè interessante per qualunque pianta.

La mia opinione è che il sottovaso non serva in linea di massima, anzi racogliendo l'acqua al suo interno rischia di formare ristagni idrici.

Vi sono dei casi in cui esso invece è utile, se non addirittura obbligatorio. Per esempio io lo uso per le piante che porto all'interno, in casa o nel giro scala per evitare di sporcare accidentalmente i pavimenti di terra o che alcune innaffiature abbondanti fuoriescano dai fori di drenaggio. In queste condizioni è assolutamente necessario distanziare il fondo del sottovaso dai fori di drenaggio, per evitare appunto ristagni idrici. A questo socopo io utilizzo dell'argilla espansa, materiale economico e di facile reperibilità.

In certi casi sottovaso e argilla espansa giocano a favore della pianta, oltre che di chi pulisce: alcune piante esotiche amano atmosfere umide (per esempio i ficus) e sopportano meglio gli inverni in casa se nel sottovaso c'è dell'acqua. L'umidità che evapora costantemente dal sottovaso crea un miscoclima umido intorno alla pianta e contrasta l'aria secca che il riscaldamento inevitabilmente crea all'interno degli ambienti.


quoto, e aggiungo solo che è particolarmente utile il sottovaso con argilla o altri materiali come pomice, lapillo o ghiaietto, in quegli appartamenti che usano un riscaldamento che tende a seccare l'aria come i termosifoni.

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io li uso solo per i taxodium, che è amante dell'acqua ( pianta paludosa ).
in estate li tengo a mollo in una bacinella di acqua fino al bordo vaso.
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MessaggioInviato: Mer Ott 25, 2006 10:26 pm    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

I sottovasi trovo siano, a parte poche eccezioni, solo dannosi. Facciamo tanto per il buon drenaggio e poi lasciamo che l'acqua ristagni in un sottovaso?
Però è vero quello che consiglia koala, facendo attenzione a che l'acqua non tocchi il vaso oppure per le piante che amano l'acqua.
Un altra occasione importante per usare il sottovaso è per preservare l'armonia con quelli del balcone di sotto!!!
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fisto61 ha scritto:
I sottovasi trovo siano, a parte poche eccezioni, solo dannosi. Facciamo tanto per il buon drenaggio e poi lasciamo che l'acqua ristagni in un sottovaso?
Però è vero quello che consiglia koala, facendo attenzione a che l'acqua non tocchi il vaso oppure per le piante che amano l'acqua.
Un altra occasione importante per usare il sottovaso è per preservare l'armonia con quelli del balcone di sotto!!!


Beh, in estate quando le piante sono tutte fuori i sottovasi vanno tutti a finire nel ripostiglio, e poi tenerli in inverno in casa nelle condizioni che ho detto prima non vuol dire tenere l'acqua perennemente così che si sviluppino funghi o muffe (meno male che non ci sono le zanzare d'inverno Very Happy ) Io semplicemente se quando bagno le piante mi cade un po' di acqua nel vaso non sto a diventar matto per toglierla, generalmente la volta successiva che vado a bagnare sono asciutti anche i sottovasi, perciò non ci sono grossi rischi di ristagni.
Resta anche il fatto che, e forse non se ne è mai parlato, io all'inizio di ogni stagione faccio dei trattamenti preventivi con antifungini e insetticidi sistemici ad ampio spettro proprio per evitare di questi problemi.

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MessaggioInviato: Gio Ott 26, 2006 2:12 pm    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

Se n'era parlato in un topic specifico. Cool

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Io francamente da due estati fa ne faccio largo uso soprattutto d'estate. In realtà non sottovasi per bonsa ma quelli delle fioriere che si usano per le piante sui terrazzi; sono larghi (ci stanno comodi due vasi di medie dimensioni), capienti e una volta riempiti di ghiaia, poi bagnata abbondanemente con acqua, forniscono un microclima umido che i bonsai adorano: si sviluppano decisamente meglio e sopportano meglio la calura estiva.
Ovviamente fori di drenaggio a distanza dal pelo dell'acqua...

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